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Shriners Launch PR Campaign, Settle Lawsuit Prior to Worldwide Masonic Grand Masters' Conference

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Editor's Note: Apology to those who are reading this editorial and already know the complex organizationals. I am explaining these relationships for those who don't. – Sandy Frost, Starbucks, Washington

The Shriners seem to have launched a massive PR campaign, as well as settled a defamation lawsuit they filed against two whistleblowers, right before the ninth worldwide conference of Masonic Grand Lodges that is taking place from May 7 to 10 in Washington, DC. Over 800 Masonic leaders will be joining the Grand Masters from over 100 countries for three days of sessions, receptions and ceremonies for the first time in our nation's capitol.

Before getting into this analysis, let's look at how these groups are related.

First, a man applies for membership at a local Masonic lodge, also known as the Blue Lodge. Once accepted, he must pass tests and complete rituals to advance through three degrees to become a Master Mason.

In North America, Masonic lodges are grouped by state and are governed by one Grand Lodge. There is no Grand Lodge of America; rather the Grand Master of each state's Masonic Grand Lodge has supreme authority over all Masons in that state. Some international grand lodges oversee a country or a region. There are about three million Masons in North America and about two million worldwide.

In North America, a Master Mason can branch out and join other "appendant" groups such as the Scottish Rite, the Knights Templar or the Shriners.

Once a Master Mason becomes a Shriner, he joins the Red-Fez wearing fraternity of 350,000 or so who meet in 191 North American temples. Though they are Master Masons, some seem to disconnect from and turn their back on Freemasonry to become "Shriners first," who then dedicate their lives to overseeing and supporting their $13 billion network of 22 hospitals that provides free medical care to burned or crippled children at tax payer expense.

Both the Shriner hospitals and fraternity are non profit groups that are overseen by their own board of directors, with some board members sitting on both boards at the same time for unlimited terms. This is more commonly called a "conflict of interest."

This joint board of directors calls the shots for both the Shriners hospitals and the fraternity. The Imperial Potentate is the leader of the fraternity, a Shriner who has risen up through the ranks, including the fraternities' governing body, the "Imperial Divan," to serve a one year term as he governs the 191 temples who, in turn, govern the 2,000 clubs under them.

In February, 2008, the joint boards published their newsletter, "Between Sessions," that tells the world about the great job they are doing.

The Shriners Hospitals for Children recently released "Biomedical Research Highlights, Volume 2:1, March 2008."

In April, 2008, Imperial Potentate Bernard Lemieux issued a statement about the most recent joint board meeting, highlighting a consultant's plan to "more efficiently structure Shriners Headquarters" and how the board approved a new Strategic Action Plan (SAP).

On May 1, 2008, court documents were recorded after the Shriners settled a lawsuit instead of pursuing two whistleblowers for "defamation."

Why would the Shriners be working so hard on putting out the good word and getting rid of the defamation lawsuit before the world's Grand Masters meet in DC?

Are they are trying to wave their hands like Obi-Wan Kenobi and tell the Grand Masters "These are not the headlines that you're looking for."

Headlines?

Who said anything about headlines?

Before we go there, let's look at the Shriners chain of command.

The ambitious Shriner can work his way up until he may be invited to join a secret Shrine sub-group called the Royal Order of Jesters, another non profit group with both charitable and fraternal components. The Jesters claim that their fraternal exempt organization purpose is to "spread of the gospel of merriment and mirth." They also claim they deserve charitable status because they built a "museum" inside their new $1.2 million dollar head quarters in Indianapolis, Indiana.

Recent articles about the Royal Order of Jesters began on February 15, 2008, when I published "Jesters Exposed."

It asked:

"Have the Jesters hustled the feds by convincing them that raising millions for partying is a legitimate exempt purpose because the IRS has had no problem classifying them as both a nonprofit fraternity and charity?"

This article described how the Jesters' executive director, Alex Rogers, submitted an application for property exemption for the new headquarters and how it was initially denied by the Marion County Assessor because they were not convinced that the Jesters qualified as a charity, based on the museum claims, under Indiana law. The Jesters appealed to the state board of tax appeals and were granted the property tax exemption after convincing the state that they were an appendant body of Masonry.

My next article, "Jesters to Testify about Illegal Drugs, Illegal Child Prostitution," ran on March 6, 2008.

This article described how 19 Jesters were called as witnesses in a federal libel/slander lawsuit to testify about "their first hand knowledge of prostitution, minor prostitution, use of illegal drugs and/or entry into Indian reservations by Schair (plaintiff) and/or his customers" while on a ROJ sanctioned fishing trip to Brazil. This article describes the testimony of underage girls provided to Brazilian authorities who are currently investigating the possibility that the girls were involved in child sex tourism. One of the girls claimed she was 13 at the time and was left pregnant.

Three days later, on March 9, the Buffalo News ran:

"Ex-judge target in interstate sex case."

Reporter Dan Herbeck wrote:

"A retired State Supreme Court justice resigned his post as a hearing officer as federal agents investigate his alleged role in taking a local massage parlor worker across state lines for purposes of prostitution. FBI and U.S. Border Patrol agents are investigating allegations that retired Judge Ronald H. Tills, his former law clerk and a retired police captain took the female massage parlor employee in a motor home to a gathering of members of a nationwide group called the Royal Order of Jesters…"

"Ex-officer admits facilitating prostitution" ran on March 21, 2008 and Herbeck wrote:

"A retired Lockport police captain pleaded guilty Thursday to transporting women over state lines on two occasions to work as prostitutes at gatherings of a fraternal club. John Trowbridge, 60, also admitted to a federal judge that he paid the women for sexual favors at a Wheatfield massage parlor. His felony guilty plea could result in as much as 18 months in prison for him as well as serious legal trouble for a former state judge and a former state law clerk who are under investigation."

"Judge Tills traveled with woman he jailed on prostitution charge, Former state justice is a central figure in probe of activities of Buffalo Jesters," ran on April 6, 2008 and Herbeck wrote:

"A woman who faced drug and prostitution charges in State Supreme Court Justice Ronald H. Tills' courtroom later accompanied him on an out-of-state trip for a fraternal organization called the Jesters. Investigators are trying to determine whether the woman offered her services as a prostitute at the convention or whether she was just a guest of the judge, who has since retired… Tills, 73, is a central figure in a federal probe into the activities of the Buffalo chapter of the Jesters, a nationwide club that says its goal is to spread 'mirth and merriment'."

My latest article, "Judge Central Figure in FBI Probe, the S.O.B.I.B. and the Jesters' Half Million Dollar Weekend Parties," ran on April 12, 2008.

It reported how Judge Tills has become the focus of an investigation by the FBI, the US Attorney's office and a human trafficking task force and that he, along with Alex Rogers and Ralph Semb, chairman of the board of trustees for the Shriners Hospitals for Children, are members of a Jester's sub-group, the SOBIB. The acronym supposedly stands for "Secret/Sacred Order of Brothers in Blood." Tax returns show that the Jesters fail to report this sub-group on their tax returns and that in 2004, the International Royal Order of Jesters spent $545,806 on one of their weekend celebrations of "merriment and mirth," otherwise known as the "Book of the Play."

So, you might be asking, have the Shriners denounced any of the Jesters involved in these prostitution/child sex tourism/felony scandals?

No.

Have the Shriners tried to disassociate themselves from the Jesters?

No.

Have the Shriners made examples of those Jesters bringing disgrace upon the brotherhood by either trying them for "conduct unbecoming a Shriner" or throwing them out?

No.

Not a word.

It's as if their silence condones it.

Or maybe they are hoping that if they keep quiet, this whole Jesters' thing will just blow over.

After all, seven out of twelve who currently sit on the Shriners Hospitals for Children Board of Trustees are also members of the Royal Order of Jesters, including current potentate Bernard LeMieux, chairman Ralph Semb, Charles Claypool, Timothy E. Morris, Raoul L. Frevel, Nicholas Thomas and Gene Bracewell.

I mean, how could these guys blow the whistle on their own "boys gone wild" group while trying to tell everyone how good they are and what a great job they are doing? Instead of drawing a line in the sand, the joint boards are spinning the benefits of a major reorganization, selling themselves in a new "Between Sessions" newsletter and touting their "Biomedical Research Highlights."

And what about the Shriners' defamation lawsuit?

The last thing they wanted is for Shriner whistleblower Vernon Hill and/or current IRS agent Paul Dolnier to show up at the Grand Masters conference and hand out copies of the defamation complaint filed against them in retaliation for asking questions like "Where does all the money go?" and "What is wrong with your tax returns?" as well as for implying that the Shriners were being investigated after Dolnier met with Pennsylvania officials for half a day as he explained irregularities he'd found through his professional analysis of their tax returns.

The last thing the Shriners wanted was for a jury to hear all about and for reporters to explain how they retaliate against those who want to report crimes instead of prosecuting those who commit the crimes.

The last thing the Shriners wanted was for the world to know how they demanded all communications between Vernon Hill, Paul Dolnier and me in an effort to circumvent federal and state reporter shield laws that have recognized a journalists' privilege to protect "the identity of sources and unpublished information collected or prepared during newsgathering."

All we know is that the case has been dismissed since the clerk of the Hillsborough County circuit court posted the settlement notice online on May 1, 2008, six days before the Grand Masters conference.

Back to the reorganization announcement.

It seems really out of whack.

Why would a non profit group hire a company that "provides innovative solutions in the areas of human capital strategy, program design and management, and in the areas of risk and capital management, reinsurance intermediary services and actuarial consulting" instead of turning to non profit consultants, the IRS or their parent group, the Masons, for guidance?

According to the announcement, the consultants recommended a 7% spending cap that was accepted when the joint boards unanimously approved a strategic action plan.

Why did the Shriners spend charitable donations on another expensive study when, according to the minutes of their February 27 – March 1, 2005 Shrine Treasurers Association seminar, the treasurers heard about a Price Waterhouse study that also recommended a similiar 7% spending cap to support hospitals that were operating at only 1/3 capacity?

The treasurers also heard about an option combining both a 7% spending cap and the acceptance of third party pay. It was rejected because "if we take third party pay under NIH funding for our research program we're going to have to jump through the hoops of all the federal regulations pertaining to affirmative action. And we're going to have to comply with state laws that you wouldn't believe."

What type of a "culture" would be adversely affected by following federal regulations pertaining to affirmative action and by complying with state laws?

And why would the joint board spend only one day reviewing something as important as reorganization, though the consultants worked for over a year on it? What was it that needed reorganization? In other words, what was so broken that it needed fixing?

The announcement failed to mention any inclusionary activities such as focus groups or surveys of either the families served by the hospitals or the Shriner membership. Did the Imperial Divan consult the members for their input on the reorganization or did they just decide to keep the consultants secret and decide what was best for everyone without asking them?

The joint board published their most recent newsletter "Between Sessions" in February, 2008, that tried to describe all their good deeds but instead painted a confusing picture of how they are spending millions on facilities, new construction and IT projects that look good on paper but may be a huge waste if the fraternity becomes extinct due to plummeting membership. Articles also described how:

•Consultants were hired to figure out how to recruit and retain 16 physicians needed at 12 Shriners hospitals.

•The Research Advisory Board needed to be reorganized.

•The medical research department needed to be streamlined.

•The grant management review process needed to become more efficient.

•Each scientist's performance would be evaluated to see if they were spending their funding productively.

•The PR department was being reorganized.

And what about the 46 page Biomedcial Research Highlight publication?

The information presented in this document should be part of Part III of the exempt organization tax return, the 990.

The tax return states:

"All organizations must describe their exempt purpose achievements in a clear and concise manner. State the number of clients served, publications issued, etc. Discuss achievements that are not measureable."

The Shriners use the same boiler plate answer year after year, while plugging in different numbers. They usually sum up their activities as:

"a.Treatment of pediatric burn victims admissions: 2,779, outpatient clinic visits: 213,277 at 2 burns hospitals.

b.Treatment of orthopedic patients admissions: 19,462 outpatient clinic visits: 213,257 at 16 orthopedic hospitals (including one dual use hospital)."

That's it.

Why would the Shriners hide the details of research projects, publications, patents or millions given for research grants from the IRS, yet release such a glowing report two months before the Grand Masters meet?

Maybe it's because if this information was disclosed on their tax returns, they'd also have to disclose the fact that the Cincinnati Shriners hospital received two warning letters from the FDA and ten letters from the Office of Human Research Protection after both agencies found that those conducting clinical studies had violated human subject protections, disregarded protocols and failed to keep adequate medical records?

So what does any of this have to do with the world's Grand Masters?

I came across a paper written by India's Grand Master that was presented at the 7th world conference of Masonic Grand Lodges held in Santiago, Chile. Arun Chintopanth spoke about "Freemasonry, Universalism and World Society at the Beginning of the XXI Century" one particular phrase he used caught my eye.

It's the "breakdown of spiritual order."

From where I sit, it appears that the Shriners have been hijacked by those who have violated their Masonic vows; hijacked by those wanting to run their non profit hospitals like a money making business; hijacked by those who abuse their positions of public trust for private gain; hijacked by those who may have suffered a personal "breakdown of spiritual order" by acting as if "Shrine law is above the law of the land" to the point that they get busted by the FBI in a prostitution sting and have been called as witnesses to testify about their alleged involvement in child sex tourism.

A statement issued by the Grand Lodges of Scotland, England and Ireland in 1938 states:

"Everyone who enters Freemasonry is, at the outset, strictly forbidden to countenance any act which may have a tendency to subvert the peace and good order of society, he must pay due obedience to the law of any state in which he resides….."

It's time for those Shriners AKA Jesters involved with these crimes to answer to someone.

Someone like the Grand Masters who are currently meeting in Washington DC.

All copies of material reprinted or duplicated from by Sandy Frost must include the following credit line: From http://sandyfrost.newsvine.com/ Copyright © 2008 by Sandy Frost. Used by permission.

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{"commentId":1777563,"authorDomain":"amberneve"}

I have no first-hand knowledge of anything you have written about. I am certain that the civil authorities will sort the truth from the fiction.

I am not a Shriner. But I can state with absolute certainty that Shriners is an honorable organization.

As a child aged twelve or thirteen, I received months of expensive surgery, residence and care at a Shriners facility in the Pacific Northwest. My medical and personal treatment was first-rate.

Why muddy the waters with negative press? If there is a pervasive problem it should be exposed; otherwise, why cast a shadow over the overwhelmingly positive work of this grand organization?

God bless the Shriners.

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Reply#1 - Wed May 7, 2008 10:06 PM EDT
{"commentId":1779868,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

Thank you, Neron, for your comment. Since you have no first hand knowledge, please read the synopsis of my findings called "Two Years On." Once you are up to speed, you can compare these findings to the non profit guidelines of transparency, accountability and disclosure. These discrepancies demand IRS investigation.
And let me thank you for making my point.
The Shriners PR push should have focused on the generations of those willing to tell their success stories to the world. Why spend tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of donor dollars on PR pros and consultants to try and sell the group when patients like you would gladly share your experiences for free?
A true non profit group should emphasize how they fulfill their social obligations while being accountable to us tax payers. Instead, the Shriners fret about needing to reorganize after apparently mismanaging their $13 billion endowment in the face of fraternal extinction. An "honorable" non profit group should have taken a stance against those involved with these prostitution scandals instead of sticking their heads in the sand and spinning the problem away. Thanks again,
Sandy

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#1.1 - Thu May 8, 2008 2:10 PM EDT
{"commentId":2481886,"authorDomain":"cjgleaves"}

I was once a mason, and I am a Christian. Being a Christian, prevented me from continuing on as a Mason. They told me I couldnt quit, so I quit paying my dues. I was later in an accident wich left me parapelegic. They would have kicked me out at this time anyway, because you have to be a person of sound mind and body.
I was later envolved in two personal injury lawsuits, concerning me and my son. Both lawyers where masons, but I never told them I once was. My son was a minor and incompasitated. My son died just before his 26 birthday, One of the lawyers committed suicide, that left his wife the widow of a fallen Mason. The masons take a blood oath to take care of widows and orphans of masons, they usually dont, follow through. But when the widow is worth millions and is very attractive, it helps.
That lawyer had made mistakes in my sons case, leaving her and the other lawyer liable. They tried to keep it from me, by having a phoney probate hearing. everybody lied to protect the widow, judges, and lawyers, and even a U.S.State Representative. All masons. When I found out what they did, I was persecuted. And I am still being persecuted, I have moved 4 times and lived in three different states, trying to get away from them, and cannot get anyone to help me. I have been to the FBI US dept of justice and attorney generals office. The masonic lodge, inn my opinion, is know different than the KKK. And there are high ranking people in the government members.

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#1.2 - Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:12 PM EDT
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{"commentId":1777655,"authorDomain":"honestabe2005"}

Neron, What can't you understand that this is not about their Shriners Hospitals, but lack of total
Financial Accountability, Ethics and their $10 Billion Dollars they have to sue their own members
for requesting them to disclose how they spend the money. I suggest you read the New York Times story on March 19th, 2007 about how little money they actually give to the Hospitals. This was on their front page. Why don't you address the "Jesters" and their sex clubs, The NY Judge that was caught
pimping across state lines for the Shriners Jesters members? Why should you pay the IRS and they don't? Open up your mind and realize that their Leaders leave a lot to be desired.....If they were
"above board" they would open up their books to the public and disclose the money they have used for
personal mortages as Sandy has documented. Because they supposingly help the Hospitals, does this give them the right to shaft the IRS, the laws of the land, their own members and contributors? Should they not be held accountable, should they not be punished for going to a foreign country to have sex with minors? You are so concerned about the Shriners Hospitals, I ask you why don't they advertise their Hospitals other than for free PSA advertisements? Why aren't their Hospitals not full of kids being
worked on by the Doctors? This is reality, something ain't right with all the stories Sandy has written
because the Shriners Honchos haven't denied anything. Perhaps they are in shock knowing they have been caught and they can't do a damn thing about it other than wait for the Feds to come knocking
and then start stuttering. No one made them filled out their IRS Returns and not tell the truth did they?

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Reply#2 - Wed May 7, 2008 10:42 PM EDT
{"commentId":1777681,"authorDomain":"amberneve"}

You have strong opinions.

I wish to state, merely, that my own experience as a recipient of services has been quite positive.

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#2.1 - Wed May 7, 2008 10:55 PM EDT
{"commentId":1781214,"authorDomain":"roycl"}

I have not seen anywhere that Sandy has documented anything. I have seen where she is wildly throwing out unsubstantiated allegations.

Please take some time and visit one of these hospitals and see that they are quite full for the most part and there are a lot of out patents.

If somehow Sandy's stories that do not make any since come together and all of these people go to jail, the I will have to issue a retraction of my observations. But I will not expect to do this in my life time because she would have to rewrite some of the stories so that they do not go against what she is saying in anouthr story or part of a story

Roy

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    #2.2 - Thu May 8, 2008 9:34 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1782499,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

    Roy,
    This is an editorial, not a news article.
    It's my opinion.
    It's my point of view after investigating the Shriners for over two years.
    This is a public service as I point out this "breakdown of spiritual order" to the Grand Masters of the world and others interested in what I would otherwise identify as "non profit fraud."
    The issues are non profit transparency, accountability and disclosure.
    The Shriners are non profit and as such, should operate according to the laws of the land.
    Sandy

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    #2.3 - Fri May 9, 2008 10:20 AM EDT
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    {"commentId":1778271,"authorDomain":"mwestenfelder"}

    Ummmm, Sandy

    I don't want to be invasive here, but I would want to note to anybody interested in masonry that the so-called Regular Grand Lodge of England - RGLE - and the subsidiaries it established are a creation in 2005 by a rather limited group of people around an individual acting under the pseudonym of "Rui Gabirro", which have no connection to the main trunk of masonry despite the claims on their websites to be some sort of governing body and/or meta-lodge.

    It is a self-creation that did not abide to the conventions of regular nor reformed masonry and is shunned/ignored by all but very few lodges as far as I'm aware of. And definintely not accepted by neither the United Grand Lodge of England and the Grande Loge Nationale Française which on itself takes away its legitimacy in masonic tradition.

    Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, Sandy

    Greetings from Spain

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    Reply#3 - Thu May 8, 2008 6:08 AM EDT
    {"commentId":1779541,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

    Thank you for your comments.
    It's my understanding that the tenets of Freemasonry include a respect for law and order and an understanding that members must obey the laws of the land as well as the land that they are in. The membership process weeds out criminals and those of questionable character to make sure that those new members are a good fit. If Masons of any type are found to have violated the law, they should be expelled and terminated from their fraternity for the good of the fraternity, without exception. Thanks again,
    Sandy

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    #3.1 - Thu May 8, 2008 12:56 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1781283,"authorDomain":"mwestenfelder"}

    Sandy

    I'll be more blunt now.

    The RGLE is a scam. It has operated as a scam from the very start. They operate out of the US and I don't know how they are perceived on your side of the pond. But over here, the RGLE is not even a topic. They are not the only ones on which I just can shake my head.

    RGLE has no lineage, its a self-declared "lodge", a "Scientology cult in Masonic clothing" of sorts.

    As such your questions to me are inapplicable. What the RGLE does or does not do, abides to or does not abide to, has nothing to do with masonic duties right from the start.

    And I'll be honest. It hurts me to see that you put the word "Masonic" in your title. It sounds like meaning "a Scientology Centre in London" and saying "the Church of Britain".

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      #3.2 - Thu May 8, 2008 10:06 PM EDT
      {"commentId":1788438,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

      I don't recall asking you any questions.
      And I don't think what I wrote about had anything to do with the RGLE or Scientology or "Rui Gabirro" or Masonic cults or whatever.
      This is not the place for the "My Masonry is better than your Masonry" spats that end up looking more like hand-to-hand combat than anything else.
      Thank you,
      Sandy

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      #3.3 - Sun May 11, 2008 11:47 AM EDT
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      {"commentId":1780225,"authorDomain":"bradf"}

      I am a Mason and a Shriner, as was my father. I am not a Jester, but I do have friends I know to be Jesters (Court #32 in Fort Worth, TX), and they are some of the finest men I've had the privilege to know. They wouldn't be caught dead participating in the kinds of activities alleged in your columns. Please note that I am not testifying to the character of all Shriners/Jesters everywhere, but the ones I am referring to are as honorable as it gets.

      I have noted that you draw a fairly clear distinction between the Blue Lodge and the Shriners. As no man can continue as a Shriner if Blue Lodge membership is terminated for any reason, the appropriate place to accomplish individual pruning is the Blue Lodge itself. There are procedures in place to handle men who display character inconsistent with being a Mason. The application of these procedures is up to each Mason's home lodge. It is entirely conceivable (and even probable) that most local lodges are not aware of these issues. If they are, it should be incumbent upon them to take action.

      With that said, dishonorable or illegal actions by Masons are unacceptable. Our Masonic oaths are specific. My personal opinion is that there is a time for forbearance, and a time for expulsion. I hope that neither option is employed to the exclusion of the other.

      I wish to bring to your attention that the tone of your articles paints all Shriners (Jesters or not) with a very large brush, indeed. This brush width does not reflect the values, character, or people it has been my pleasure and honor to know through this organization. I would courteously ask that in your writings you perhaps be mindful of over-broad characterizations, explicitly or implicitly. I don't believe that being careful with assignations is incongruent with the work you are doing to explore issues within our organization(s) that have the appearance of impropriety.

      Regards,

      Brad Felmey

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      Reply#4 - Thu May 8, 2008 3:46 PM EDT
      {"commentId":1780795,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

      Thanks for your observations.
      Ask away, but this is an editorial.
      You know.
      Opinion.
      The public is best served by a diverse media with many styles and points of view. I just happen to be an investigative journalist with a passion for exposing corruption.
      It's my calling.
      Were I to not honor my gifts, Creator would be offended.
      Welcome to my world.
      Sandy

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      #4.1 - Thu May 8, 2008 6:29 PM EDT
      {"commentId":1783753,"authorDomain":"bradf"}

      So, are you an editorialist or a journalist? There is a world of difference between them, and you claim to be both in the same non-response to several reasonsed posts. "If you don't like what I say, don't read it" is not a rebuttal, nor a refutation, nor a justification for falsehoods. It is the response of a stone-thrower living in a glass house.

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        #4.2 - Fri May 9, 2008 2:48 PM EDT
        {"commentId":1788318,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

        I am a columnist who publishes at Newsvine.
        Newsvine members report and write about what interests them.
        I am an investigative journalist with over five years experience in investigating non profit groups.
        I compare my research about the Shriners to the metrics of non profit accountability, transparency and disclosure. I also write editorials and publish them here. I also link to other articles that support my observations that the Shriners are self-admittedly mismanaged due to a serious lack of oversight. This lack of oversight starts with the IRS and this is why I stick to the issues of non profit accountability, transparency and disclosure as illustrated by the Shriners consistently incomplete tax returns. What I have found and more has been confirmed by other media as well as by law enforcement and I predict that within the next year, these types of agencies will find much, much more.
        I write about what I find from my own point of view. All journalists do the same. I don't think that there is any such thing as true journalistic objectivity.
        This column is part of a hybrid news delivery system that many do not understand.
        I'm sorry if you don't.
        Sandy

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        #4.3 - Sun May 11, 2008 10:41 AM EDT
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        {"commentId":1780563,"authorDomain":"up9start"}

        There is a glaring error in this paragraph.
        Though they are Master Masons, some seem to disconnect from and turn their back on Freemasonry to become "Shriners first," who then dedicate their lives to overseeing and supporting their $13 billion network of 22 hospitals that provides free medical care to burned or crippled children at tax payer expense.

        at tax payer expense. Should read at Shriners expense. Public tax payers are not involved.

        Sincerely
        David F. Warner

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          Reply#6 - Thu May 8, 2008 5:21 PM EDT
          {"commentId":1788381,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

          This answer is not only for David, but for everyone leaving comments.
          The Shriners claim to be the world's greatest philanthropy. This means that they also claim to be the world's greatest non profit group.
          A non profit group is one formed with social and legal contracts with our government and society. The IRS grants tax exempt status to non profit groups in exchange for their promise to provide the services/benefits stated as their exempt purpose. Best case scenario is that the value of services/benefits provided exceeds the value of taxes not paid.
          This tax exempt status means that as long as they provide their services/benefits, file honest and accurate tax returns and obey non profit laws, they will, in turn, enjoy the benefits provided by not paying income tax, property tax, state taxes and other assessments. The non profit group can then support itself by soliciting operating funds or income in the form of tax-free charitable contributions and use the non profit system to manipulate investments, holdings and donations of all kinds to their advantage. Tax payers can reduce their income by deducting tax-free charitable contributions. According to the IRS, personal charitable contributions are limited to 50% of one's adjusted gross income. Corporations may deduct all contributions to 501(c)(3) organizations up to an amount normally equal to 10% of their taxable income.
          When these charitable contributions are itemized as personal or corporate deductions, taxable income reported to the IRS is reduced. According to the Boston Shriners Hospital's tax returns for 2006, one person contributed $8,657,609. He then reduced his reportable income by over $8 million.
          When the non profit groups do not pay property, income or state taxes, those tax bases are reduced.
          When these governments are denied this revenue, we taxpayers must make up for it. We pay for what they don't pay as it's part of the social contract.
          A non profit group may claim to provide "free" services to the needy, but in reality it's done so at tax payer expense because we bear the burden of those taxes not paid.
          We pay so the Shriners can claim to be the world's greatest philanthropy and the world's greatest nonprofit group by providing "free" services to the burned and crippled children. There would not be any problems if the Shriners were truly the world's greatest non profit group. Until they can make that claim, I will keep asking questions about their incomplete tax returns, missing state charitable reports, undisclosed and unusual mortgage documents, letters about clinical study violations, self-incriminating meeting minutes and other damaging sources that they would rather keep hidden. I will keep asking what is it that the Shriners are trying so desperately to hide. I will keep asking why the Shriners want to silence, intimidate and sue those who question their finances and ask for financial accountability.
          I will keep on asking why the Shriners go after those who want to prosecute crimes instead of those caught committing them.
          Why?
          The public has a right to know because the Shriners are ultimately accountable to all of us.
          Sandy

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          #6.1 - Sun May 11, 2008 11:17 AM EDT
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          {"commentId":1780638,"authorDomain":"tenorz"}

          Who is the anonymous "mike" who is calling some one an "idiot". My membership as a Blue Lodge Master Mason does not allow me to call others any derogatory names. And, since 'mike' used the possessive "your" instead of the contractive "you're", I have to believe his comments come, not from the brain or heart, but from some other more visceral portion of his anatomy. The web may condone the use of small case letters instead of first letter capitals, but intelligence does not allow blatant name calling or the mis-use of English, in any form. Such misuse is, so often, an indication of a paucity of intellect, stark and abiding laziness, or a full membership in the No-Nothing Party. As such, it is easy to ignore.

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            Reply#7 - Thu May 8, 2008 5:41 PM EDT
            {"commentId":1780832,"authorDomain":"jimabiff"}

            Of all the good things that Masonry does and stands for it is a shame that a group that has little regard for the teachings are not dealt with. I served on the Hospital Board of Governors and feel our hospital did everything possible to keep things on the up and up. We helped a lot of young people over the years and it is decline not because of the actions of some, but because of the technical advances of medicine. I have belonged over 52 years and I am proud to be called a Mason and will continue to work in the Masonic Fraternity with the teachings it has, and not worry about those who have glory on their minds. Their are other parts of the fraternity that helps mankind besides the Shrine. The York Rite eye surgeries, the medical researching done in areas that most people do not know about, the helping of young people in their learning, the blood drives sponsored by local Lodges, and the program to give bikes to kids for reading. And how about the Youth program that collects money to help with kids who need hearing aids. No I do not condone the actions of a few, when so many work hard to make a difference in the life of a child.

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            Reply#8 - Thu May 8, 2008 6:49 PM EDT
            {"commentId":1781170,"authorDomain":"roycl"}

            Sandy,

            Where do you get your information? Whom ever is telling you things are wrong in many points and if you were a good reporter you would check out what you are told and not print falsehoods.

            This story like the one one you printed implying that Jesters were doing wrong has many problems with the story. As I have noted none of the wild aligations came to pass. I will site just a few of the problem with your new story.

            You say "In North America, a Master Mason can branch out and join other "appendant" groups such as the Scottish Rite, the Knights Templar or the Shriners." This statement has some truth to it by it is wrong. If you are going to try to bash organizations learn something about them first.

            You say,"Though they are Master Masons, some seem to disconnect from and turn their back on Freemasonry to become "Shriners first," who then dedicate their lives to overseeing and supporting their $13 billion network of 22 hospitals that provides free medical care to burned or crippled children at tax payer expense."

            Please site examples where Masons turn their back to the blue lodge because they become Shriners? I find this a strange statement because a condition to being a Shriner is to be in good standing with the Blue Lodge. If he turns his back on the Blue Lodge he will not be able to continue being a Shriner.

            There is not a penny that comes from any government tax used to support any Masonic hospitals. All the money used to pay for these hospitals are from dues paid by the Masons and by donations.

            You ask:

            "Have the Jesters hustled the feds by convincing them that raising millions for partying is a legitimate exempt purpose because the IRS has had no problem classifying them as both a nonprofit fraternity and charity?"

            Did you ask the same about the Lions, Elks, Moose, Knights of Columbus and the VFW? They seem to have the same purpose as you point out in your statement. Maybe I you were to take some time doing some investigation, you would not have egg on your face so often, but then you would get board with the truth.

            You say:

            "So, you might be asking, have the Shriners denounced any of the Jesters involved in these prostitution/child sex tourism/felony scandals?

            No.

            Have the Shriners tried to disassociate themselves from the Jesters?

            No.

            Have the Shriners made examples of those Jesters bringing disgrace upon the brotherhood by either trying them for "conduct unbecoming a Shriner" or throwing them out?

            No.

            Not a word. "

            So from what you are saying is that a person should be punished for a crime before they are tried or convicted of a crime. I thought in the US we were presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty. I guess you do not prescribe to this practice?

            I have glanced over your other claims and see nothing but hearsay and guessing. If you want to be a reporter , please get at least some classes on the correct way put a story together. In the stories I have read of yours I can say they could be used to show what not to do.

            Roy

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              Reply#9 - Thu May 8, 2008 9:17 PM EDT
              {"commentId":1782480,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

              Roy,
              Thanks for your comments.
              Again, this is an editorial, not a news article.
              Big difference.
              This is my opinion.
              This is my point of view.
              This is how I see things after investigating the Shriners for over two years.
              The facts on which my opinions are based can be found in my synopsis "Two Years On."
              I didn't write this article for you.
              I wrote it for the Grand Masters of the world.
              Just because I am different does not mean that I am wrong.
              If you don't like what I write or how I write it, don't read it.
              Sandy

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              #9.1 - Fri May 9, 2008 10:14 AM EDT
              {"commentId":1786994,"authorDomain":"roycl"}

              So, you are saying that you just hate the Shriners and will say anything even if it is not true? You should not be posting in news vine because it implies that you are reporting the news and not make believe opinions.

              Roy

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                #9.2 - Sat May 10, 2008 7:21 PM EDT
                {"commentId":1788396,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

                Roy,
                With people like you, I don't know if you are a real person who truly doesn't understand the difference between news articles and editorials or if you are some made up identity whose only purpose is to cause trouble by using inflammatory language?
                Either way, I am sorry.
                Sandy

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                • 2 votes
                #9.3 - Sun May 11, 2008 11:23 AM EDT
                {"commentId":1842200,"authorDomain":"widowsson"}

                Brother (I assume he's a Mason) Roy asks, "So from what you are saying is that a person should be punished for a crime before they are tried or convicted of a crime. I thought in the US we were presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty. I guess you do not prescribe to this practice?"

                I assume he hasn't studied much Masonic jurisprudence, or he wouldn't have asked such a question. Action against a Mason by his local or grand lodge or other Masonic body is not dependent upon the Mason being charged and/or convicted by a government court. A Mason can be charged with a Masonic crime even if his "crime" is not considered a crime under U.S. or state law, or if he has not yet been tried or convicted in a government court.

                Recent over-reactions by certain grand masters have indicated even that some Masonic jurisdictions can, or think they can, punish a Mason by suspension or expulsion without even charging him with a Masonic offense.

                If the Shriners and Jesters have been accused of, or called to be a witness in a crime of the magnitude that Sandy Frost has written about, then their governing bodies should be actively investigating the allegations, no matter what a local, state or federal government is doing.

                Widow's Son
                BurningTaper.com

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                • 2 votes
                #9.4 - Mon May 26, 2008 5:01 PM EDT
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                {"commentId":1782293,"authorDomain":"cooolcat"}

                Thousands of people have gotten a great deal from this fraternity. Like any group of any size sooner or later you will come across a bad apple. If someone had anything to do with child sex then they should have more than our simple justice system to worry about. If some moron decided to participate in the oldest profession know to this planet namely prostitution then they should be outed and embarrassed to all. The Masons and Shriners and all other groups are not evil, if they use pagentry or passwords or handshakes or other actions to simply add some kind of life to nothing, well thats just what they do. There is no evil master plan at the bottom of it. I have seen first hand the people the Shriners Burn Institutes and orthopedic hospitals have helped. I hope you or no one you ever meet ever has to deal with a young child being burnt close to death with life changing burn scars ravaging throughout their entire body. With the Shriners burn Institue all you have to do is call them anytime anywhere, it doesn't matter who you are or what your circumstances. They come pick you up and work with you and your child and family until things are right. They never EVER ask for a dime, their care is COMPLETELY FREE. I have seen children who have had to undergo many many reconstructive surgeries and the counseling they and their families had to go through to make it better for all. Never once are they ever rejected care or asked to pay. With any other health care provider or health plan in this country if you had to deal with anyone other than the Shrine in such a situation you would be bankrupt or worse. So please, I know writing stories that are hot or sexy or taboo excites on line readers, please remember what you are mad at. You are mad at one or two old DUMB men who decided to FOOLISHLY engage the services of a prostitue. That is the case. To try and throw mud at an organization that has done a heck of a lot more good and righted a heck of a lot more lives than we could ever list here is wrong. This fraternity is completed funded by its members. Millions go into the hospitals and care units every year. If a bunch of old men want to travel to a conference to wear funny hats and eat barbeque then where is the crime there? You talk about tax evasion. Okay of you want to double tax them go ahead. The money that this group spends already comes out of the paychecks that the government taxed in the first place. But if you do think due to your dislike or distrust of this group that they should be double taxed, well then I would be very careful, since I believe we had a whole lot of issues with that "taxation without representation" thing back in the 1760s and 1770's

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                Reply#10 - Fri May 9, 2008 9:19 AM EDT
                {"commentId":1782464,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

                This editorial was the result of two years of research. Again, please read my findings in "Two Years On."

                Sandy

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                • 2 votes
                Reply#11 - Fri May 9, 2008 10:08 AM EDT
                {"commentId":1782754,"authorDomain":"danator"}
                Daniel A. TorlucciDeleted
                {"commentId":1783447,"authorDomain":"jhmobley1"}

                Sandy,

                I see in our local paper where a reporter was accused of theft from the paper they worked for. How can you reporters be such thieves? Why do all reporters steal? Why hasn't the publishers denounced all of you? Now keep in mind this is an editorial, an opinion, my point of view. Remember that writing is basic and reporting is fundamental. By the mere fact you state that taxpayer money is used shows that you don't have your facts straight. I see you spent 2 years "investigating"masons, please tell me that you have solved all the problems facing us as citizens ,that you now have a full 2 years to dedicate to one story. WOW! Didn't you have some sort of vow or oath to report all the facts or at least truthful facts? You are obviously a substandard reporter as an opinion section is usually reserved such.

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                  Reply#13 - Fri May 9, 2008 1:39 PM EDT
                  {"commentId":1783555,"authorDomain":"jhmobley1"}

                  Sandy,

                  I see here in our local paper where a reporter was caught stealing from the company he worked for. How can all reporters be thieves? Why do all of you reporters steal? Why have the publishers not denounced you thieving reporters? Now keep in mind this is an opinion, my observation, an article. Remember writing is basic ,reporting is fundamental and you fail at both. By the mere fact that you stated tax payer money is used shows you didn't do your homework. Did you solve all of the problems of your hometown that you had 2 years to dedicate to one story with the wrong facts? Now I know why you have an opinion column assigned to you rather than a real column. Didn't you take some sort of oath to report the truthful facts?

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                    Reply#14 - Fri May 9, 2008 2:02 PM EDT
                    {"commentId":1783561,"authorDomain":"jhmobley1"}

                    P.S. Your website leaves alot to be desired as it sent me a message that my posting didn't go through and now I see it twice. It is as unreliable as your articles.

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                      Reply#15 - Fri May 9, 2008 2:04 PM EDT
                      {"commentId":1788412,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

                      Jack,
                      Let me recommend that you either read this entire two year body of work or my synopsis "Two Years On." And let me also recommend that you do your research about the hybrid news delivery system that is Newsvine and how the field of online journalism is changing the face of news.
                      This investigation is about misuse of charitable donations, tax fraud and what appears to be a culture of corruption that has been also reported by other media such as the New York Times, the Buffalo News and local papers around the country. Now, after the media has been exposing the Shriners these past few years, the FBI is investigating crimes found in both their fraternity and charity. This is why we have investigative journalists.
                      This is the concept behind "watchdog" journalism.
                      Out of fairness, make sure that you make these same comments to those other media and the FBI, so it doesn't look like you are singling me out. You don't want to look like you are picking on me, do you?
                      Sandy

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                      • 1 vote
                      #15.1 - Sun May 11, 2008 11:35 AM EDT
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                      {"commentId":1785288,"authorDomain":"marilynl"}

                      Sounds like you've hit a nerve, Sandy. Take care...

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                      • 4 votes
                      Reply#16 - Fri May 9, 2008 11:41 PM EDT
                      {"commentId":1802208,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

                      It appears so, Marilyn.
                      Thanks,
                      Sandy

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                      • 3 votes
                      #16.1 - Thu May 15, 2008 6:09 AM EDT
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                      {"commentId":1788423,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

                      Daniel A. Torlucci,
                      I mistakenly hit the "delete" button instead of the "reply" button.
                      Re-post if you wish.
                      Sandy

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                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#17 - Sun May 11, 2008 11:40 AM EDT
                      {"commentId":1789174,"authorDomain":"danator"}

                      No Thanks, Not worthy a discussion.

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                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#18 - Sun May 11, 2008 5:28 PM EDT
                      {"commentId":1789380,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

                      You are right.
                      Thanks,
                      Sandy

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                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#19 - Sun May 11, 2008 7:03 PM EDT
                      {"commentId":1793604,"authorDomain":"miriam777"}

                      This was an excellent article ans is consistent with my documentation. please visit the NYS, Congress, and judicial sections:

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                        Reply#20 - Mon May 12, 2008 11:49 PM EDT
                        {"commentId":1800802,"authorDomain":"chaos231"}

                        Sandy,
                        I have read your writings, and spent some time reading all the comments here as well. I guess I would like to say that I would agree that you have painted Masonry and the Shrine with a very broad brush. I say this because with Masonry for example, in one state alone you can have as many as 500 individual lodges or more. Each state has its own Grand Lodge. Each state is sovereign unto itself. This means that just in Masonry each Grand Lodge is charged with policing its own regarding indiscretions of its members. Most Grand Lodges meet only once a year to do this. Now, there is no accounting for the individual, and yes, the occasional "bad seed" shows up in our ranks. but I would say considering the sheer number of masons that exist in the states, we do a pretty damn good job of weeding them out and upholding our principles. As far as the Shrine goes, it is a similar state of affairs. Where one Temple may have had some corruption, and those involved punished, many do not. The Leaders of these Temples change every year, as it is a progressive line, and we do a good job of correcting things that go wrong. No one should say we are without our problems, but at its root, this is a fantastic organization that does great work. The reason so many folks get fired up and upset about reports that are so abrasive towards this organization, is that all that good work can be LOST, and all those children we help abandoned if we were to lose our status due to irresponsible journalism painting an unbalanced picture of what our organization does AS A WHOLE. I am not aiming at your particular article, but I would like you to consider that in your responsibilities as a journalist, there must be a more productive way to affect change without endangering such a laudable endeavor as the Shriners Hospitals for Children. I speak only on behalf of myself as a Shriner and Mason who has spent more that 2 years inside this wonderful fraternity and understands that in the map of the globe, there are few, if any, organizations that have accomplished what we have. I would propose that instead of digging your heels in and holding fast to the notion that the way you have portrayed this group is the only way they should be or can be seen, step back from sensationalism and look for a more constructive way to find solutions to the problems facing a small percentage thereof. As for the Jesters, that is another discussion, but many of these same principles apply. After all, the catholic church has a much higher percentage of immoral behavior within their ranks, and they speak for god to a much larger audience! I digress, but I hope you can see some wisdom in these words.

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                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#21 - Wed May 14, 2008 5:57 PM EDT
                        {"commentId":1802125,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

                        Thank you for your comments.
                        Are you saying that the Shriners' good deeds mean that they don't have to obey the law? You give me way too much credit. How could one journalist cause an agency as big and as powerful as the IRS to suspend the Shriners non profit status? Only the Shriners could cause the IRS to suspend their non profit status.
                        If it turns out that the IRS suspends the Shriners non profit status and they could no longer provide free medical care to crippled and burned children, that would be the Shriners' fault and no one elses. The only thing I could take credit for is asking the hard questions that no one wants to answer. And that is a journalist's job. It's what we do. If the IRS or any other agency, such as the FBI, finds wrongdoing, that would mean that my writings are correct and are not, as you claim, irresponsible journalism. Instead of accusing me of being wrong and irresponsible, you need to ask yourself "What if Sandy is right?"
                        If you feel so strongly, start your own Newsvine column and prove me wrong. Write about all the good stuff. But would that be balanced, if you just wrote about the good stuff?
                        Let me challenge you to read this entire body of work and then tell me that investigating the Shriners' and Jesters' incomplete tax returns, unusual mortgage patterns and self-incriminating meeting minutes is sensationalistic. If reporting about lawsuits, FBI stings and international investigations that deal with the possibility that members the Royal Order of Jesters are involved with prostitution and child sex tourism are sensationalistic, then you'll need to also contact the Buffalo News and other media that have reported similar things. If reporting about the Shriners finances and tax returns is irresponsible, then make sure you get a hold of the New York Times.
                        Do you think that these types of things should not be reported because that is the alternative.
                        If the Shriners are such a wonderful fraternity, then it stands to reason that they must also be a wonderful non profit group, meaning that they are the model of non profit transparency, accountability and disclosure.
                        These are the metrics I've used the past two years and so far, the Shriners fail to measure up. My articles deal with what the Shriners and Jesters report and do not report on their tax returns. I fail to see how reporting about tax returns is irresponsible or sensationalistic.
                        And finally, this is an editorial. It's my opinion. If you think my opinions are irresponsible or sensationalistic, then so be it. But to be fair, make sure you get a hold of the Buffalo News and challenge the editorial that they wrote.
                        Thanks again,
                        Sandy

                        PS. As an experiment, go to your potentate and ask him to sit down with you and explain your temple's tax returns for the past three years. Ask to see your temple's financial reports, reports to corporate, all fund-raising requests and banking records. Ask to see the audits of your temple's financial activity for the same time period with a clear and detailed explanation of all funds raised for your temple and all funds raised for the charity and where that money went. Then ask your potentate how much the temple spent so he and the divan could travel, attend meetings, eat out and have new uniforms and jewels. Keep asking until you get the answers and see what happens.

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                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#22 - Thu May 15, 2008 4:26 AM EDT
                        {"commentId":1802126,"authorDomain":"Vis-a-Vis"}

                        This is the concept behind "watchdog" journalism...

                        We must be careful when we dismiss inflammatory "passion play" writing as mere "watchdog journalism". The Nazi's used a very effective form of "watchdog journalism" to incite the masses against an entire group of people. The Spanish did the same thing centuries earlier with the Inquisition. More recently (in our own country) Mexicans, Mormons, communists, black nationalists, gays, feminists, and Muslims have found themselves on the receiving end of "watchdog journalism"

                        Accusations of tax evasion and global conspiracys, however entertaining, are detrimental to us as Americans. Isn't there enough division amongst our society as it is? What is the expected result of this witch hunt? Perhaps we would like to see elderly Shriners on CSPAN testifying in front of Congress? We can watch the witch hunt unravel itself in the living rooms across America, right after the baseball steroid debacle. If the volunteer spirit isn't dead in our country, it will be soon enough.

                        Do unto others and then get sued for it. Nice message.

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                        Reply#23 - Thu May 15, 2008 4:27 AM EDT
                        {"commentId":1802194,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

                        Are you saying that watchdog journalists are like the Nazis and Spanish Inquisitors?

                        And that the Nazis and the leaders of the Spanish Inquisition used watchdog journalism to sway the masses?

                        The word you are looking for is propaganda. Goebbels was Hitler's propaganda minister, not a watchdog journalist.

                        And watchdog journalists target minorities?

                        Interesting.

                        If "elderly Shriners" are called to testify before Congress, it's because Congress found a reason to do so. I would not characterize a Congressional investigation as a "witch hunt."

                        If Congress does call for hearings, here's a little secret.

                        They are going to know the answers before asking those "elderly Shriners" any questions.

                        Sandy

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                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#24 - Thu May 15, 2008 5:51 AM EDT
                        {"commentId":1802578,"authorDomain":"chaos231"}

                        Sandy,
                        You are very good at what you do. I see that in response to my message what you have come back with is the same broad brush, and the same over the top language to try and get me to "argue". That must be what sells your stuff. This is no more than Jerry Springer in forum form. For your information, I am well aware of my Temples finances, and so are all the members who inquire. They are on open record at all our meetings, in very clear, understandable ways. I will not argue with you here. On one hand you say you must report the way you do, and on the other you say you have no impact. Maybe you are right, and I hope you are. It is regretful that you cannot see the forest for the trees here. We as a people have a nasty habit of tearing down things that are great because we have nothing in our own lives that compare. Although your aggressive methods of "reporting" is the only way you know, I consider you a virus of the printed word, a one trick pony that cannot understand the difference between affecting change and destroying something. Worlds aren't changed in blogs I guess, and in truth I suppose what you have to say is very insignificant. I am proud to be a Shriner, Proud to be a mason, and encourage anyone who is not one to become one because there a few things left in this world that has a sole purpose of improving character, moral value and community charity. People destroy things they do not understand, and you are no different. I would be interested to see if there are any ulterior motives for your aversion to these organizations. Im sure you will say there aren't. Enjoy the attention, I imagine in your mind it has validated what you have done.

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                          Reply#25 - Thu May 15, 2008 9:25 AM EDT
                          {"commentId":1803031,"authorDomain":"Vis-a-Vis"}

                          Q: Are you saying that watchdog journalists are like the Nazis and Spanish Inquisitors? A: Yes

                          Q: And that the Nazis and the leaders of the Spanish Inquisition used watchdog journalism to sway the masses? A: Yes

                          Q: And watchdog journalists target minorities? A: Yes

                          Watchdog Journalism is just the nice way of saying Propaganda.

                          And for your information, all congressional hearings ARE witch hunts. These hearings are always looked upon with great embarrassment later on, when the pop politics of the day have changed. Look at how silly McCarthy looks now when we review the old grainy footage. Nobody really remembers anything but the negative images anyway. What was accomplished? Nada.

                          How is history going to judge the mighty USA for distracting its citizens with baseball steroids during a multi-front global war and economic tumble? How about Ken Starr and the Clinton persecution? Is there anyone left who cares about the Lewinsky affair? All anyone remembers is how hideous Linda Trip looked on TV. None of these issues matter one bit to anyone anymore. It is in fact Propaganda, ergo Watchdog Journalism.

                          It seems like you may have WASTED two years of your precious life investigating the Shriners. You would have received a Pell Grant if you had chosen to investigate something of substance, like the Sasquatch or the Loch Ness Monster; and some folks may have even appreciated your life's work.

                          Instead you slander and diminish one of the last venerable fraternities in America. Who's next, the VFW?

                          There's only one thing that is certain. Congress will never call for hearings over this. There will never be an investigation. Nobody will ever care about this matter. Your editorial commentary will fall to the wayside along with the editorialist who tried to bring down the Whig Party.

                          This whole exercise was entertaining to say the least. I've never been accused of being part of a criminal enterprise before, and I've never been treated like a schmuck either. Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to experience something new today.

                          I am an American veteran who has seen real corruption around the globe. I have spent the last 31 months in Iraq marching to the sound of the guns in support of the latest American struggle. Believe me, if your biggest fear is the Shriners, you've got a lot to learn.

                          I sincerely hope that you never have to experience any real fear or hardship in your life. Only then will you realize what is and isn't important.

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                          Reply#26 - Thu May 15, 2008 11:15 AM EDT
                          {"commentId":1803975,"authorDomain":"flotsuum"}

                          No one wins a flame war.

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                          #26.1 - Thu May 15, 2008 2:55 PM EDT
                          {"commentId":1812474,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

                          I have experienced fear and hardship in such a way that would have killed most people.
                          I am a Seattle Mariners fan.
                          Sandy

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                          #26.2 - Sat May 17, 2008 11:47 AM EDT
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                          {"commentId":1803105,"authorDomain":"Vis-a-Vis"}

                          In Response to this curious comment...........

                          "If Congress does call for hearings, here's a little secret. They are going to know the answers before asking those "elderly Shriners" any questions."

                          Good, then maybe they can "KNOW" where all of the weapons of mass destruction are. Maybe then they can also "know" where Osama bin Laden is, and maybe they can somehow "KNOW" where 11 million illegal aliens are too.

                          Congress isn't going to KNOW jack, especially since there's nothing to KNOW.

                          However, Congress will always know what it will take to get re-elected. They will know where they can score some Oxycontin and Cocaine for the weekend on their way to meeting the new DC Madame. That's all they will ever "KNOW".

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                            Reply#27 - Thu May 15, 2008 11:33 AM EDT
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