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Brazilian Fishing Trip Depositions: "Masons" Pictured Having Sex with Teen Prostitutes?

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Royal Order of Jesters member and federal court witness Don Anderson of Rio Rancho, New Mexico, sits at a Brazillian school in August or September, 2005. Other photos of the Jesters August 31 - September 9, 2005 fishing trip in Brazil available online at Wet-A-Line, L.L.C here.

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What began as a federal libel/slander lawsuit between two Brazilian fishing tour operators has led to the possibility that "Masons" on such a fishing trip participated in child sex tourism and minor prostitution. The term "Mason" is used here because that is how two Brazilian fishing guides, called as witnesses for the defense, referred to members of the Royal Order of Jesters identified in their recent depositions.

This is the second of two articles explaining what court records have thus far revealed in this legal battle, described here.

The first article, "Jesters to Testify about Illegal Drugs and Minor Prostitution?" explains how 19 members of the Royal Order of Jesters, who went on a sanctioned fishing trip to Brazil, were also called as witnesses for the defense. The witness list can be read here.

The article also referred to statements from "Jane Does" 1 – 4, one of whom testified to Brazilian federal police that she was 13 and allegedly left pregnant after such a trip. The girls' statements can be read here.

These same four girls, two who were 16 at the time, with the others being 13 and 14 years old, have also been called as witnesses for the defense.

Brazilian authorities took the same girls' statements as part of their investigation into a criminal report that "since the year 2000, minor Indian and other girls living near the rivers in the region of the Municipality of Autazes/AM became victims of sexual exploitation by North-American foreign tourists."

Two fishing guides, who previously worked for the plaintiff, were deposed by the Brazilian federal police to describe what they witnessed as part of this same investigation into the international crime of "child sex tourism." These guides, both brothers, recently spent three days in Miami with attorneys from both sides, interpreters, a videographer and both parties as they testified about what they witnessed as well as identified those in pictures of "Masons" allegedly having sex with teen prostitutes, some underage.

These groups are related. Once a man becomes a Master Mason, he can then join other groups such as the Scottish Rite, the Knights Templar and the Shriners. Once a Master Mason joins the Shriners, he may be invited to join the Royal Order of Jesters, a secret sub-group whose sole purpose is to "spread the gospel of mirth and merriment."

The red-fez wearing Shriners are best known for "having fun & helping kids" while the Shriners Hospitals are best known for providing free medical care to burned and crippled children. This investigation is not about those faithful Shriners who have devoted decades to support the hospitals and put smiles on the faces of the burned and crippled children. This investigation is about the Shriners' lack of non profit disclosure, accountability and transparency in addition to asking why the Shriners intimidate, silence and sue those who ask about crimes instead of prosecuting those who commit the crimes.

Having said that, this is not the only prostitution scandal involving the Royal Order of Jesters. The Buffalo News is continuing to report how three Jesters were caught by the FBI in an illegal-alien prostitution sting, including a retired New York supreme court judge, his law clerk and a retired police captain who pleaded guilty to one felony count of taking prostitutes across state lines to Jesters' parties.

Back to these depositions. They were recently made public through the PACER system that provides information and documentation about federal court cases.

Relevant parts of these depositions will provided here, edited for clarity, however they also provide a glimpse into legal tactics resembling hand-to-hand combat that could well be found in a John Grisham novel.

The first deposition, 61 pages, was provided by Adilson Garcia da Silva on Sunday, April 13, 2008. He describes how he became a fishing guide, his work history, how marijuana was allegedly obtained for the plaintiffs' clients then began describing how girls, from age 13 on up, were lured into prostitution from Brazilian Indian reservations for the fishing trips' clients. The girls, he said, were hired to provide "programs" that consisted of "oral sex, strip and dance contests."

The attorney for the defense is "Question". Adilson is "Answer."

Question: Did any of the girls tell you that they engaged in sex with Wet-a-Line clients?

Answer: Yes

Question: Did they describe to you specifically what type of sex that they had with the Wet-a-Line customers?

Answer: All types.

Question: Did the girls tell you that they were involved in different types of sex acts with Wet-a-Line customers?

Answer: Yes

Question: Did you ever witness any Wet-a-Line customer having sex, whether it was traditional sex or oral sex, from one of these prostitutes?

Answer: Yes

Question: If you could describe for us some of the types of things that you were told by, either saw or told by these prostitutes as to what specifically was occurring on these Wet-a-Line boats?

Answer: I would see it on the boat that they were practicing oral sex. We would be fishing and sometimes we'd go by and they were practicing oral sex.

Question: Did the girls -- did you ever see or hear anything from the girls, these prostitutes, that they came to you or did they come to you and say that they did anything unusual with any of the customers?

Answer: Well, a sex that I had never seen, was to shove a ball in the behind and I, you know, they would say that and I heard it.

Question: Was there a certain set or group of people customer-wise that participated in these sex acts with customer, excuse me, with the prostitutes, or was it just general customers that came aboard the boat?

Answer: No, they were groups who came exclusively to do that type of thing.

Question: And were those groups mainly American men?

Answer: Yes

Question: Can you describe for us -- I mean I know you indicated earlier that at some point in time the Amazon Santana, I believe you referred to it as, and the Santana I were joined together for the women and the men to get together. What would a typical night be when the boats would join together?

Answer: You know, party, drinking, strip, sex, drugs, everything.

Question: Do you know the ages of some of the girls that were on the boats with these customers, Wet-a-Line customers, at the time that you worked for Wet-a-Line?

Answer: Yes

Question: What were some of the ages of the women?

Answer: They would always say they were of age, but they were never of age.

Question: Did you know for a fact that they were not of age?

Answer: Some, yes. Some were not of age.

Question: When you say of age, are you referring to 18 or is it a different age?

Answer: Yes, from 18 up, it is of age.

Question: And is it your understanding that there were girls that were under 18 that were hired to be on these boats as prostitutes.

Answer: Yes

Question: What is the youngest age that you're aware of girls being prostitutes on the Wet-A-Line boats?

Answer: They said they were 18, but some of them were 16, 17.

Question: What is the youngest age that you're aware of a girl being on the boat as a prostitute?

Answer: My brother would pick up a group of girls in Autazes and would take by boat to an American. One was 13, one was 14, and there was one who was even 9 years old.

Question: Were the girls that were brought on the boats, were they given alcohol?

Answer: They would drink.

Question: Okay. Sir, I have provided to you what has been marked as Composite Exhibit B, Defendants' Composite Exhibit B. If you can take a look at the photographs, please?

Answer: I have already looked at them.

Question: Okay. Are these photographs true and correct copies of pictures that you have taken in the past?

Answer: Yes

Question: The first picture, which is Bates labeled, on the top, 00655 for identification purposes. Do you recognize the girl in this photo?

Answer: Yes

Question: Who is she?

Answer: This is Malu, or so called M-A-L-U.

Question: When were these pictures that are in Composite Exhibit B, when were all of these pictures taken?

Answer: This one was last year.

Question: When last year?

Answer: I don't know the month. I don't know exactly the month but I think it was September.

Question: Of 2007?

Answer: Yes

Question: And was anyone else around you when you took these pictures, other than the two people that are identified in the picture?

Answer: There were.

Question: Who else was around you when you took this picture?

Answer: Two American fishermen and two girls, prostitutes.

Question: Was Malu hired as a prostitute at the time that you took this picture?

Answer: Yes

Question: Was -- what looks to be a gentleman next to Malu, do you know who that person is?

Answer: Yes I know.

Question: Was a he a customer of Wet-A-Line?

Answer: He was, he was a fisherman, a Wet-A-Line's fisherman.

Question: How old was Malu at the time you took this picture?

Answer: She was 17.

Question: And were these girls hired to be on board this boat, on this day that you took this picture, to be prostitutes?

Answer: Yes

Question: The next picture, 00663. Can you identify any of the individuals in this picture?

Answer: Yes

Question: Where did you take this picture?

Answer: It was on the upper part of the boat at the beginning of dinner.

Question: A Wet-A-Line---

Answer: In the beginning of the party.

Question: Was it on a Wet-A-Line boat?

Answer: Yes

Question: Do you know who the males are that are identified in the picture?

Answer: These are the ones that they all called him Bob.

Question: Did they call both of these males Bob?

Answer: Yes. One would call this one Bob, and the other one also called the other one Bob, and I didn't know who Bob was.

Question: Were they Wet-A-Line customers?

Answer: Yes

Question: Who were the females in the pictures, in this picture, excuse me.

Answer: These are the same ones that were in the other pictures, Malu and Kelly.

Question: And were these girls hired to be on board of this boat, on this day that you took this picture, to be prostitutes?

Answer: Yes

Question: How often did you see these two Bobs on the Wet-a-Line boats?

Answer: They came every year. Every year they would come. The last time was now, last year.

Question: When last year?

Answer: It was September, the month of September.

Question: Is that when you took this picture?

Answer: It was.

Question: Turning to the next picture, 00664, can you identify any of the individuals in the picture?

Answer: I don't know their names, but they were the boat's clients.

Question: Do you know if they came with a certain organization?

Answer: The manager said that they were Masons. I didn't know what Masons were. To me, it was like a religion, like a belief.

Question: Was it your understanding that there were certain Masons that came on these tours?

Answer: Right.

Question: Do you know what a Mason is?

Answer: I didn't know what it was, but now I know that it's an organization of people that are all over the world.

Question: Do you know if all these individuals in this picture were identified to you as being Masons?

Answer: Yes, it was a group.

Question: Were the two people in the prior picture a part of the Mason group?

Answer: It was the same group. For sure it was the same group.

Question: The next picture, 00668, did you take this picture?

Answer: Yes

Question: Do you know any of the individuals in this picture?

Answer: This one here, I know only by name, and he's an American. I forgot his name. I forgot, but I know him by name.

Question: Is this Don Anderson?

Answer: That's right. That's the name. Don Anderson. He was the leader of the group, the chief of the group.

Question: Do you know the two females in this picture?

Answer: They were the ones who would be accompanying them from the same group.

Question: Why did you say that the gentleman listed in this picture was the leader? What made you think that he was the leader of the group?

Answer: Because the manager would tell us that he was, you know, the chief, the leader.

Question: Did these girls at the end of this night indicate to you that they were with this gentleman?

Answer: Yes

Deposition of Admilson Garcia da Silva, Tuesday April 15, 2008.

The attorney for the defense is "Question". Admilson is "Answer."

Question: Did you ever witness any of the Wet-A-Line customers engaging in sex acts with these women that were on the Wet-A-Line boats?

Answer: Yes

Question: What did you see?

Answer: I saw five, five of them, five women and five men, and two of the women were minors.

Question: I'm sorry. You said you saw five men and five women and two of the women were minors. Is that what you said?

Answer: That's right.

Question: And what did you see the men and women doing with each other?

Answer: There was one woman having sex with a man and the other -- the other women only gave them a blow job.

Question: Sir, I had asked you before we took a break what you saw the women engaging in with the men and if you could describe for us what you saw -- in this particular instance that you're referring to what you saw at that time on the Wet-A-Line boats.

Answer: Exactly. So there were five men with five women, two of them were minors. And they did all types of, you know, sexual acts. And I took pictures but I -- I took pictures but I don't have them here.

Question: Did you take pictures of what was happening with these men and women at the time you saw them performing sex with each other?

Answer: Yes

Question: How did you know the ages of the females that were on the boat at the time?

Answer: They told me.

Question: Did the girls appear very young to you?

Answer: Yes, they were girls. They were young girls. Because girls for us is very young.

Question: Now you have children that I believe you said are in the age range, or two of them are 14 and 12, correct?

Answer: The boy is 14, and the girl is 12.

Question: The girls that were hired for services on Wet-A-Line tours, did some of the girls look in the age range of your own daughter who is 12 years old?

Answer: Yes, they were small girls.

Deposition of Adilson Garcia da Silva, Tuesday, April 15, 2008.

Question: Was there ever a certain age group that you were asked to retain the services of meeting, a certain age group of females that you were ever asked to retain the services of while working at Wet-A-Line tours for specific – for a specific group of customers?

Answer: Yes. They always wanted young ones.

Question: Was there ever a specific age group that you were asked to hire for a specific group of customers?

Answer: They would ask from 13 on up.

Question: Was there a specific group of customers, of Wet-A-Line customers, that you were aware of that wanted a certain age group of women?

Answer: Yes, there was.

Question: Which group was that?

Answer: It was more so the group of masons that would ask for that.

Question: And was that the group of people that are identified in the pictures that you have provided in this case?

Answer: Yes

Adilson's depositions can be found here and here.

Admilson's deposition can be found here.

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{"commentId":1841248,"authorDomain":"nitewingsg1"}

A lot of sick people in this world.

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Reply#1 - Mon May 26, 2008 9:28 AM EDT
{"commentId":1841988,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

Let's not forget that all these guys belong to non profit groups.

The focus of this investigation has been on non profit transparency, disclosure and accountability.

What if these guys deduct their tax exempt contributions paid to their non profit Jesters courts so group pays for these trips?

Sandy

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#1.1 - Mon May 26, 2008 3:13 PM EDT
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{"commentId":1841419,"authorDomain":"widowsson"}

Great info, Sandy. Keep up the good work.

Widow's Son
BurningTaper.com

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Reply#2 - Mon May 26, 2008 10:34 AM EDT
{"commentId":1841995,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

Thank you.

And let me urge others to also read your well-written, educational and entertaining postings.

Sandy

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#2.1 - Mon May 26, 2008 3:15 PM EDT
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{"commentId":1841449,"authorDomain":"jmontana1"}

I am from Wichita KS and just back from middle east (Iraq) I just can't believe we have such people around here. It might be a good idea to put this article in Wichita Eagle news paper

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Reply#3 - Mon May 26, 2008 10:44 AM EDT
{"commentId":1842345,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

Thank you for your comments and for, presumably, serving our country. On this Memorial Day, I salute you, as a Navy vet, and all others serving at home and abroad to protect our way of life.

Sandy

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#3.1 - Mon May 26, 2008 6:06 PM EDT
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{"commentId":1841682,"authorDomain":"jack-beanstalker"}

the testimony in the transcript is laughable.
if i ever have to go to court for ANYTHING, i would hope that the witnesses against me are as full of heresay, conjecture and "best guess" answers as these people. saying that "she looked like a minor" doesnt hold up. people say i look like Alec Baldwin, but that doesnt make me a movie star.
they offer no evidence and prove nothing. one witness supposedly took pictures but they are not part of the evidence? give me a break!!!

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Reply#4 - Mon May 26, 2008 12:40 PM EDT
{"commentId":1841959,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

The Brazilian federal police would probably disagree agree with you as, part of their criminal investigation, they have gathered photographic evidence, deposed these fishing guides and have taken statements from the girls who alleged that they were victims of child sex tourism and minor prostitution.

The Brazilian police told one of the guides to also report what he saw to the US Embassy. Both the Brazilian police and the US Embassy informed this witness that he was being deposed to provide testimony in the United States and urged him to do so.

If you or anyone else wants to defend those who allegedly facilitated or participated in child sex tourism or minor prostitution by discounting these depositions/statements, send an amicus brief to:

Wilkie D. Ferguson, Jr. United States Courthouse
Judge Jose E. Martinez
400 North Miami Avenue, Room 10-2
Miami, FL 33128-1807

Now, your comments have been noted and you have had your say.

As a warning to ALL THOSE so inclined, this is NOT the forum for witness bashing or playing the "discovery abuse" game or legalizing in any way, shape or form.

Finally, Newsvine does not tolerate those who create user accounts to harass.

"Recurring counter productive behavior or negative contributions –even if not specifically addressed in the Code of Honor or the User Agreement – may still warrant removal of that person from the Newsvine Community."

Further comments of this nature will not be tolerated and will be dealt with accordingly.

Thank you,

Sandy

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Reply#5 - Mon May 26, 2008 2:58 PM EDT
{"commentId":1841960,"authorDomain":"redruby"}

So much for taking care of the children. Good work, Sandy in uncovering the facade of this seedy bunch.

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Reply#6 - Mon May 26, 2008 2:59 PM EDT
{"commentId":1842007,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

Thank you for your comments.

Again, the focus of this investigation has been on non profit transparency, disclosure and accountability.

I suspect that one of the things that the FBI and other three letter agencies may be investigating is the possibility that these guys used charitable donations to facilitate prostitution and possibly, child sex tourism.

Thanks again,

Sandy

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#6.1 - Mon May 26, 2008 3:22 PM EDT
{"commentId":1861699,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

Keep up the great work.

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#6.2 - Fri May 30, 2008 5:29 PM EDT
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{"commentId":1845015,"authorDomain":"globuo01"}

We need to pressure the governments that allow this to stop it. Patpong Rd. in Thailand featured prostitutes of the same young age. Laws are the first step, then a deeper dig in the US, where child sex slave rackets thrive among leading money families. In truth, we need a larger cure, a global framework that won't allow the underlying corruption to go unexposed. The Finders case, the Franklin coverup case, the Dutroux case--are all part of the same element. Only when the globe prosecutes such men rigorously will we all be safe. This story is like a scene out of The Emerald Forest---we all know such goons exist. To expose them in their own state would help. Brazilian women don't want our monsters coming to prey on their children. In Brasilia under a sympathetic government much can be done to fight this.

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    Reply#7 - Tue May 27, 2008 3:06 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1846009,"authorDomain":"honestabe2005"}

    I find it very interesting that your story on the "Grand Masters" meeting in DC have as usual failed to take any action on their good members involving the "Jesters Secret Society" and child porno involvement. Could it be that these high honchos are also Jester Members and afraid of the consequences should they start cleaning house? Maybe they realize they can't clean up as they will have to resign also? Hopefully the IRS, FBI and other badges will do the cleanup for them.
    If I was one of the above, I would be very concerned that the "Pimping Judge and his pimps" have
    already cut a deal to save their butts and have given names that has started the wheels of Justice
    turning. Sandy only a damn imbecile could not understand the total corruption that has taken place
    and that you have documented, confirmed and written about. But again you have a few fools that
    refuse to understand that even the "Holy than thou Shriners" Officers can do no wrong and are not to be questioned under any circumstances because IT'S ALL FOR THE HOSPITALS AND KIDS. The IRS
    tax returns confirm that both the Hospitals and kids have been shafted and the New York Times and you
    have documented this by the Shriners own IRS Tax Returns.

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    Reply#8 - Tue May 27, 2008 8:42 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1846387,"authorDomain":"journeyofthought"}

    To number 17:

    The reason why the "Grand Masters" can't do anything about it is because there is NOT A INSTITUTIONAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN BLUE LODGE MASONRY AND SHRINERS. This article is a excellent example of questionable journalism. Find a target, paint all with the same brush. While only masons can become shriners, not all shriners are masons. They are a separate organization, and the Grand Masters of state blue lodges cannot exert control over the Shriners because of this.

    To the author:

    I realize the goal of this type of journalism is to cause sensationalism, but please do your research. Your coming close to libel, fortunately for you, most masons would never read this and if they did they'd probably just laugh at the absurdity. Did you also know that all of the people involved in this were men? Why don't you write an article about how "men accused in fishing trip" - oh, because labeling them all as masons and makes it more sensationalist and gets you your readership.

    Masons are people. There are so many of them, you are bound to find a bad one if you look hard enough - and you have. However, this was a trip that was not sanctioned by any lodge from what I can find. And in any event, if any of these allegations are true, all the guys will get kicked out according to the Masons own code.

    And no, I am not a mason. But all of this stuff is easily to find out, if you google...

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      #8.1 - Tue May 27, 2008 10:19 PM EDT
      {"commentId":1862218,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

      Thank you for your comments.
      Well, we don't know or at least no one is telling me what is going on behind closed doors, either from the Masonic or law enforcement side. I do feel that the activity levels have been ratcheted up, way up, though these activities may never be made public.
      I agree that someone should have drawn the line in the sand, and, at the very least, someone from the Shriners should have made an effort to distance them from this and the Buffalo FBI Jesters prostitution scandals. It's as if their silence condones these activities. The head in the sand approach is their modus operandi, though, and, unfortunately, their ability to "self-police" or commitment to cleaning things up seem to be non-existent. Again, governance by law enforcement is no way to run a non profit but I predict this is how things will happen.
      Thanks again,
      Sandy

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      #8.2 - Fri May 30, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":1846747,"authorDomain":"ChrysalisB"}

      There's a scourge of satanism sweeping this world. These Nephilim are attracted to paedophilia like flies to decay. The only way the majority of people will eventually live in a world of goodwill and happiness is to increase their individual levels of consciousness - meditate, maintain integrity, practise acts of kindness when opportunities present, live harmoniously with people, animals and nature, have an open mind, practise patience and so on. We innately know how to lead a righteous life. Forget the filth the media has been presenting as normal behaviour because it's not. The moral decay has been designed to prevent people from increasing their consciousness.The Nephilim have bullied and manipulated mankind over many generations. Remember they are relatively few and vastly outnumbered and their time is not forever.

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      Reply#9 - Wed May 28, 2008 12:34 AM EDT
      {"commentId":1862113,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

      Thank you for your comments.
      As I wrote in my previous editorial, this seems to be about a "breakdown of spiritual order."
      You wrote: "The only way the majority of people will eventually live in a world of goodwill and happiness is to increase their individual levels of consciousness - meditate, maintain integrity, practise acts of kindness when opportunities present, live harmoniously with people, animals and nature, have an open mind, practise patience and so on." I agree.
      Thank you,
      Sandy

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      #9.1 - Fri May 30, 2008 6:56 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":1851592,"authorDomain":"cratbs"}

      We can thank 33 degree Mason, Muslim Shriner, Jester, Pendergast crime boss, Harry Truman for the only mass murder using atomic weapons, the CIA, NSA and Area-51 and noted homosexual, paedophile and 33 degree Mason with an entire room devoted to him at the Supreme Temple of the 33rd J Edgar Hoover for the FBI. Love the comments, but Nephilim is a myth of new bibles; the word is Giant which means feller, bully or tyrant. These men are simply Reprobates described in Romans 1 like they always have been. Theresnothingnew.org

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      Reply#10 - Wed May 28, 2008 9:19 PM EDT
      {"commentId":1862125,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

      Thank you for your interesting comments.
      I'm not sure about all the labels that you used but what I do know is that what I've been writing about for the past two years demands investigation.
      Thanks again,
      Sandy

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      #10.1 - Fri May 30, 2008 6:58 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":1861883,"authorDomain":"jumpstone"}

      The ring goes around everything. I've run into this is Florida and the "conspiracy theories" on this sort of stuff, I'm starting to believe. It's a sick world indeed. It seems the whole system is set up to attack the children. This man's story is going to break soon, if they don't kill him. The police monitor him constantly. He stands out side the court building every day... for a long time now. His wife is in hiding for fear they will take his new born.

      I think they picked on one too many fathers.

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      Reply#11 - Fri May 30, 2008 6:00 PM EDT
      {"commentId":1862190,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

      Thank you for your comments and insights into what you see going on in Florida.
      Sandy

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      • 1 vote
      Reply#12 - Fri May 30, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2064972,"authorDomain":"kchaiken"}

      I am the attorney for Wet-A-Line Tours and its owners, and as such, I am personally knowledgeable about the circumstances of these depositions you seem to believe represent some sort of gospel truth. A few observations should be known. First, the two deponents had an all expenses paid vacation in the U.S. compliments of Philip Marsteller, for over 30 days, in exchange for their sudden willingness to tell a story they never had any interest to tell until immediately after they were fired by Wet-A-Line Tours. To say that they are disgruntled former employees who, for money, would lie under oath, is an understatement since they testified they are willing to engage in criminal behavior as long someone is paying them to do so (these portions of their depositions you neglect to highlight). You also make the very dangerous, irresponsible and inaccurate statement that there are photos showing Masons having sex with teen prostitutes in Brazil. In litigation, parties are required to produce their evidence, and Marsteller and Amazon Tours, Inc. claim they have produced every photo or videotape they have. If the photos you are referring to are photos which are alleged by Marsteller to exist in our case, you might find it interesting to know that not a SINGLE photograph or videotape of ANYONE having ANY KIND of sexual contact has ever been produced. You might also wish to know that while Marsteller is happy to publish depositions and affidavits that are of highly questionable credibility, he has asked the Court to seal from public view the photographs he has produced, because he knows that when the public sees the photos, they will know that what he claims they show, they do not show. Are their photos of girls in Brazil wearing bathing suits on the river? You bet. Are their photos of sexual behavior. NO-- there is not.

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        Reply#13 - Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:58 AM EDT
        {"commentId":2071258,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

        Ken,
        Please discuss your account with our moderator.
        Your representation of and lobbying on behalf of your clients is commercial activity and as such, is prohibited.
        This is not the place to try your case.
        Sandy

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        Reply#14 - Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:11 AM EDT
        {"commentId":2087168,"authorDomain":"Emily"}

        Hi Guys,

        I just wanted to chime in here:

        Constructive debate about the issues is perfectly fine. Kenneth, it looks like you have some first-hand insight into the topic the article is discussing.

        As always, Newsvine members agree to abide by the Code of Honor. If any comments are in violation of these rules, they will be removed.

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        Reply#15 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:27 PM EDT
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