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Felony Conspiracy Plea Confirms Investigation into Masonic Sub-group, Royal Order of Jesters

A 2000 Challenger 335 MHA motor home, similiar to the one forfeited per Michael Stebick's plea agreement.

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An attorney and member of two Masonic sub-groups has pleaded guilty to one felony count of conspiring to violate the Mann act after admitting to driving a prostitute across state lines so she could be sold for sex to members of the Royal Order of Jesters at one of their weekend stag parties.

Michael R, Stebick, a former prosecutor for the Erie County district attorney's office, a former New York State Supreme Court law clerk and former Impressario or leader of the Jesters Buffalo Court #18 was caught with a retired police captain and a former New York State Supreme Judge, both also Jesters, during a fifteen month federal investigation into human trafficking.

Human Trafficking is defined as "the recruitment, transportation, harboring, or receipt of people for the purposes of slavery, forced labor and servitude."

Stebick has agreed to cooperate with the Human Trafficking Task Force/FBI investigation into the scandal plagued Jesters.

Before a man can be a Shriner or Jester, he must first become a Master Mason. He can then join other sub groups like the Scottish Rite, the Knights Templar or the Shriners. So, a man who is a member of the Royal Order of Jesters was first an invited Shriner who was first a Master Mason. (1)

Stebick is the second Jester to enter into a plea agreement with federal prosecutors for Mann Act violations. His plea agreement can be read here.

Last March 20, retired police captain John Trowbridge pleaded guilty to one felony count of violating the Mann Act by transporting prostitutes to Jester parties in Kentucky and Pennsylvania. Trowbridge was originally scheduled for sentencing on July 31, but will now be sentenced on November 4 due to being a witness in other cases. His plea agreement can be read here.

Ronald Tills, the former New York Supreme Court judge, has yet to go public with any cooperative agreements though federal court documents reveal that he was recently added as a defendant in an unrelated RICO complaint.

"Cooperation" for both Stebick and Trowbridge is spelled out in both their plea agreements as:

* Providing complete and truthful information regarding the defendant's knowledge of any and all criminal activity, whether undertaken by the defendant or others, in any way involving or related to the unlawful transportation of individuals for prostitution or other sexual activity which is prohibited by law.

* Submitting to interviews by government attorneys and agents.

* Testifying truthfully and completely before grand juries and at such pre-trial and trial proceedings.

* Testifying truthfully and completely in local, state, and federal courts in jurisdictions which have agreed to abide by the plea agreement.

* Providing proactive cooperation to the government regarding individuals involved in criminal activity involving unlawful transportation of individuals for prostitution or other sexual activity which is prohibited by law.

* Providing cooperation to any local, state, or federal authorities designated by the government.

In exchange, Stebick could be imprisoned from four to ten months, be fined from $3,000 to $30,000 and be on supervised probation for two to three years.

The plea agreement's factual basis is based on facts that both Stebick and U.S. Attorney's office agreed to. It states that in October, 2005, the defendant, Michael R. Stebick, together with John Trowbridge, Len Wah Chong, a former New York State Supreme Court Judge AKA "Judge" and others whose identities are known to the parties, agreed to knowingly transport a woman who was an illegal alien from New York to Kentucky.

Chong owned four "massage" and "acupressure" businesses that were fronts for prostitution and kept as many as 11 illegal aliens as sex slaves. She pleaded guilty to a Felony Information early last April, charging her with "Sex Trafficking of Persons by Force, Fraud and Coercion." More details can be read here.

Stebick's plea states that Trowbridge picked up the prostitute from Chong's Golden Acupressure business and then "drove her to a parking lot of Leisure Land in Hamburg, New York to board a motor home driven by Stebick to transport her, the co-conspirators and others known and unknown to the U.S. Attorney's office, to Ashland, Kentucky" so she could:

"engage in sexual intercourse and other sexual activity in exchange for money with members of a men's organization of which the defendant, John Trowbridge and the Judge were members, and which organization was holding a gathering in Kentucky the weekend of October 28 - 30, 2005. This organization maintained chapters throughout the United States, including in Western New York, and it was the custom of these chapters to host periodic meetings, usually on weekends, for their members. At most of these meetings, some members of the organization would be tasked to arrange for the presence of women at the meetings, for the specific purpose of utilizing the women to engage in sexual intercourse and other sexual activity with the organization's members in exchange for money...The facts set forth above are those about which the government had independent information prior to the time the defendant indicated a desire to cooperate with the government and agreed to give statements regarding the defendant's involvement in criminal activity. It is understood and agreed to by the parties that additional information provided by the defendant cannot be used against the defendant."

Part of Stebick's plea agreement was to "immediately criminally forfeit" his 2000 Challenger 335 MHA motor home. It will be sold, with the proceeds also forfeited.

This is the second sex scandal to hit the Royal Order of Jesters after it was reported last March that nineteen members were also called as witnesses in a separate federal lawsuit to testify about their first hand knowledge of sex with minors while on a sanctioned Jesters fishing trip in Brazil.

Additionally, these three will most likely face disciplinary actions overseen by the Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of New York, which could result in expulsion from the worldwide order. The Grand Secretary of the Grand Lodge of New York, Gilbert Savitzky, referred questions about the disciplinary process and the Grand Master's reactions to the Lodge's public relations firm, with no answers yet.

Stebick and Tills, both attorneys and members of the New York Bar Association, also face automatic disbarment upon pleading guilty to federal felonies.

A call placed to the Royal Order of Jesters headquarters to get reaction from executive director Alex Rogers was unsuccessful because their phone number has been disconnected.

This investigation is being conducted by New York Western District's Human Trafficking Task Force and Alliance.

According to a Department of Justice announcement, the task force was created in November, 2006 and "is a collaboration of local, state and federal law enforcement agencies and non-government service organizations working together to identify, rescue and assist victims of human trafficking, human smuggling and other civil and human rights offenses in the 17 counties of the district, through aggressive investigation, prosecution, training, education and outreach to law enforcement, non government organizations, vulnerable and affected persons and the general public."

These groups include the FBI, Erie County Sheriff's Office, Custom and Border Protection, Unted States Border Patrol with the assistance of the Niagara County Sherriff's Office and the Tonawanda Police Department. The case is being handled by Assistant U.S. Attorney Robert C. Moscati, who is also in charge of the task force.

In closing, Moscati said "We will go wherever the evidence leads us."

(1) The Royal Order of Jesters is an invitation-only fraternal sub-group of the Shriners, best known for operating a network of 22 hospitals that provides free medical care to burned and crippled children. The Revised Constitution and Bylaws of the National Court of the Royal Order of Jesters spells out the close relationship between the two groups. It can be read here. Both groups have been classified as "non profit" or "tax exempt" by the IRS. A Shriner committee that was tasked with investigating the alleged unethical conduct of hospital leaders Ralph Semb and Gene Bracewell. The committee's report revealed, among other things, that Semb may have knowingly executed a fraudulent tax return. Semb and Bracewell are also Jesters. The Interim Report can be read here.

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{"commentId":2454560,"authorDomain":"honestabe2005"}

Ms. Frost:
You have written this Shriners Jesters Crime Corruption in such simple terms that even the
Hard Core Shriner members can understand that the Shriners Members Leaders that have been
caught for hauling Whores for Sex Orgies Parties & Good Times even though they are Lawyers, Cops,
are now going to JAIL FOR BEING CROOKED. They have broken the laws of the United States, used money that should have gone to the Shriners Hospitals, lied to the public and donors.
The Shriners Executives with their 5 stars on their ltttle bitty red hats have got to be damn stupid
if they in their self imposed egostical brains still believe that they have no problems and can keep
acting as if "all is well". If the Shriners members had the balls, they would demand that the top 50
Leaders resign effective immediately as they have failed their obligations as a Mason and a Man.
Wonder if the same Leaders will bring suit against the Government for exposing them????
If I were Semb, Cumpstone and all the others, I would be very nervous everytime my doorbell rang
and if the man with the Gold Badge was going to ask me to go with him. They still owe the Shriners
Hospitals $43 Million Dollars according to the NYT story on the Shriners. Wondre how this was divided up?

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Reply#1 - Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:59 PM EDT
{"commentId":2458446,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

The Lone Ranger,
Thank you! I work really hard on my writing and it's nice when you readers acknowledge it. I call this a "train wreck" article because I don't think the reader would stop reading.
I appreciate your passion and like you and so many others, hope that things can be cleaned up before it's too late.
Thanks again,
Sandy

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#1.1 - Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:35 PM EDT
{"commentId":2473062,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}
They still owe the Shriners Hospitals $43 Million Dollars according to the NYT story on the Shriners.

For those not familiar with Sandy's long history of reporting on the crimes and abuses of the Shriners. it's worth noting that she was the muckraking journalist who reported on this story long, long, long before the New York Times picked up on it. Her details are exhaustive and impeccable.

There's a whole series of Shriner articles in her column. Sandy may not toot her own horn, but Newsvine readers have known for ages where the real scoops are delivered. You go girl!

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#1.2 - Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:21 PM EDT
{"commentId":2520858,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

Thanks, Pamela!
People should go to your site here to read about what you have uncovered!
The bottom line is that it's up to writers like us to keep digging, no matter where it leads or who becomes exposed.
Every pun intended.
I mean, these guys pay big bucks for the title "Potentate."
Thanks again,
Sandy

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#1.3 - Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:09 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2457836,"authorDomain":"Wheel"}

Sandy,

Congratulations on a fine story. And congratulations on bringing this story to light.

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Reply#2 - Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:14 PM EDT
{"commentId":2458454,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

Wheel,
Thank you for taking the time to read what I write. And thank you for your praise. Sandy

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#2.1 - Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2458126,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

Keep up the great work

Note: Insert Adult Disclaimer here.

are we supposed to insert our own disclaimer or did you mean to add one in there?

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Reply#3 - Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:51 PM EDT
{"commentId":2458434,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

Thanks, Scott.
It is just that. I think that people know what that means, don't you?
And you keep up the great work!
Thanks again,
Sandy

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#3.1 - Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:33 PM EDT
{"commentId":2459176,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

will do. thanks.

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#3.2 - Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:21 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2463180,"authorDomain":"widowsson"}

Excellent story, Sandy. Thanks for keeping us up to date on this developing case.

-- W.S.

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Reply#4 - Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:59 AM EDT
{"commentId":2463884,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

Thanks to you for discussing this article on The Burning Taper! You are such a great writer! You summed it up perfectly:

"This matter goes deeper than just some horny old guys taking a hooker to a party...I'm sure those Jesters were just as anxious and then happy to see them arrive at their party as elderly blue lodgers are to see their young Junior Warden show up with the donuts before a meeting."

If the Jesters had just been honest and included "prostitution," "sex slavery" and "child sex tourism" as exempt purposes on their applicatoin to the IRS for non profit status, well, hey! that gives me an idea for an editorial!

See how this works?

Thanks again,

Sandy

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#4.1 - Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:50 AM EDT
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{"commentId":2467726,"authorDomain":"tbaker-3"}

Don't expect justice or the rule of law to prevail. The worst part is going to be exposure but all these 'good old boys' will be probationed with little if any fine. 43 million can buy a lot of 'influence' if you know what I mean.

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    Reply#5 - Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:22 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2468059,"authorDomain":"embeech"}

    Why is it that free sex is legal but ifyou pay for it it is a crime?

    {"commentId":2468059,"threadId":"331954","contentId":"1748405","authorDomain":"embeech"}
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    Reply#6 - Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:59 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2468126,"authorDomain":"Wheel"}

    One is unskilled labor?

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    #6.1 - Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:08 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2520890,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

    Don-422959,
    This story is not about paying for sex. It's about those caught and pleading guilty to violating the Mann Act. Thanks for your comment,
    Sandy

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    #6.2 - Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:11 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":2468137,"authorDomain":"embeech"}

    Why is it that if the sex is free it is legal but if you pay for it is agaiinst the law.

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    Reply#7 - Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:10 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2468185,"authorDomain":"embeech"}

    If George Bush were arested and jailed that woould b worthwhile news.

    {"commentId":2468185,"threadId":"331954","contentId":"1748405","authorDomain":"embeech"}
      Reply#8 - Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:14 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2520915,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

      Don-422959,
      Thank you again for your comment but this investigation is ultimately about non profit transparency, disclosure and transparency. A non profit group, whether fraternal or charitable, is supposed to provide a benefit to society. Instead members of this fraternity were caught breaking the law.
      That is news.
      Thank you,
      Sandy

      {"commentId":2520915,"threadId":"331954","contentId":"1748405","authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}
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      #8.1 - Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:14 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":2469688,"authorDomain":"jeanette3654"}

      Good article Sandy, but I'm confused about something. We all know that almost all cops, judges, prosecutors, DA's and politicians are Masons. We all know they're corrupt and cover each others backs in all criminal activity. They would NEVER actually investigate another Mason. That being said, how sure are you that these jerks will be punished?

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      Reply#9 - Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:42 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2520977,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

      Jeanette-423273,
      Thank you for your comments.
      I don't know that almost all public servants are Masons nor that they are corrupt.
      What we do know is that the Human Trafficking Task Force out of the Western District of New York is busy following the evidence to where ever it leads.
      I'm not sure of anything at this point other than that these felony pleas are a beginning.
      If I were to speculate, those investigating might find a pattern that fits the definition of "racketeering" which could lead to applying the RICO statutes but building a case like this could take years. I have no idea, really, and can report on only what is available through public records.
      Thanks again,
      Sandy

      {"commentId":2520977,"threadId":"331954","contentId":"1748405","authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}
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      #9.1 - Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:21 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":2470006,"authorDomain":"ibis7771"}

      If you really want to know more about human trafficking, you should investigate some of the so called NGO's and "christian groups" that are operating in the NW part of Thailand in the town named Maesod.
      Ms Bush was recently there to perhaps approve a plan to open a hospital there.
      There are many human rights atrocities committed in this area of Thailand. The Burmese and Karen people are often kept in so called "safe houses" where medical experiments take place.
      Many of the war orphans and women are then smuggled to New York....one of these so called religious organizations that claims to help people.
      I spent a good bit of time in Maesod, Thailand and I have seen many things. The refugees there have no place to go and noone to turn to for help. The people that claim to be helping them are the ones using them for medical research and or human trafficking. I believe one of the main organizations that could be involved in this trafficking is a NY based so called "human rights" organization......I am not sure about this however.
      I am sick of seeing corruption by so called "christian" groups claiming to help people.

      Sincerely,
      Charles R Krueger Jr

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      Reply#10 - Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:36 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2473102,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}

      If you have details about such activity the community at Newsvine would welcome any reports you did. We are citizen journalists, as much as we have professionals among us, first hand reports or non professional accounts of unique world views, are always appreciated and respected here.

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      #10.1 - Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:26 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2520994,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

      ibis7771 AKA Charles R Krueger Jr,
      Thank you for your insightful comments. The entire situation is sad.
      Thanks again,
      Sandy

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      #10.2 - Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:22 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":2471723,"authorDomain":"rogindaup"}

      That these individuals were involved in activities both illegal and immoral, for which they will now serve time for federal felony convictions, should come as a surprise to no one. The Masons, in all of their various costumes and configurations, are a Luciferian organzation; the "public face" (and lower rank) of the Illuminati. Contrary to what any member of this organization will tell you privately, much less admit publicly, the origin and structure of the Faternal Order of Masons is centered around worship of Lucifer, aka Satan. Indeed the organization's "closed" activities ("Lodge meetings," or whatever they're called,) are conducted under a sworn oath of secrecy & concealed from public scrutiny for this very reason. As worshipers of the Prince of the Power of the Air - the Morning Star - the "mystery" behind the reason for this organization's very existance, is that it exists not to "build up" and support/contribute to civilized society; but to foment chaos & ultimately break down and destroy all manner of accepted norms, morals, and traditions. This is the ultimate aim & goal of their parent organization, the Illuminati. For it is only through the ultimate destruction of all societal norms & traditions can the Illuminati ultimately assume complete control of their New World Order. Hence the existance of supposedly benign & benovolent organizations such as the Masons. Even more twisted and secret is the fact that, except for those at the very highest echelons of the organization, (and were definitely NOT talking, "33rd Degree,") the vast majority of members have no clue about any of these truths; and, indeed, believe the Masons are basically a "Christian" organization. This is precisely the purpose of all their "secrets" and "mystery." Make no mistake, however, and do not be mislead: The Masons are a Satanic organization hiding behind a guise of benevolence. Indeed, Satan DOES come as an Agel of Light!

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      Reply#11 - Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:22 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2521020,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

      RogindaUP,
      Thank you for your interesting comments.
      As far as the Masons are concerned, I was told that I would be contacted by a public relations firm who would then provide me with comments or reactions from the Grand Lodge of New York but I have heard nothing yet.
      Thank you again,
      Sandy

      {"commentId":2521020,"threadId":"331954","contentId":"1748405","authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}
        #11.1 - Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:25 PM EDT
        {"commentId":2682970,"authorDomain":"Zankee"}

        RogindaUP #12:

        I'm in agreement with your opinion and conclusions.., well said....

        (Better late than never.)

        {"commentId":2682970,"threadId":"331954","contentId":"1748405","authorDomain":"Zankee"}
          #11.2 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 4:05 PM EDT
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          {"commentId":2471853,"authorDomain":"slsmit2"}

          Once the planet is awakened so many are going to be shocked to their very core when they realize who all this time has been destroying our planet in the name of greed, lies and deceit.....these mad men and women have been blinded by their own BS....born from pure evil and sick minds

          Something founded on such evil cannot sustain itself....eventually it will crumble from within because they start believing their own BS and then their lies become truth and truth is lies....this whole past century plus has been ONE BIG LIE....and the biggest shame of it all is IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE THIS WAY....these same mentally deranged could have ruled this planet and been just as rich doing it the right way...

          .that is when you know SATAN is invovled when these idiots choose to rule by terror and death instead of healthy and peaceful....

          IT IS OUR TURN NOW and I on't shed one tear watching the world crumble below their feet watch their power stripped away from the very greed that posses them....it is their turn to feel the pain of what evil feels like....

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          Reply#12 - Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:12 AM EDT
          {"commentId":2521049,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

          Laurie-423673
          Thank you for your comments.
          I believe in personal responsibility and not that Satan or God or anyone made these guys take the illegal alien prostitutes across state borders to be sold at Jester parties. "The Devil made me do it" defense won't stand up before a federal judge, who will sentence these guys accordingly.
          It will be interesting to see how far the investigators will go with this.
          Thanks again,
          Sandy

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          #12.1 - Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:27 PM EDT
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          {"commentId":2472909,"authorDomain":"byandby43"}

          What exactly is the function of a jester? They don't do fund raising or contribute to the hospital. The only thing I see they do is party with anything goes and anything else that's illegal. Why can't they be brought up on charges from the Masons, which seems to still be a moral organization. If they are found to be unworthy of being a mason, they can't be a shriner or anything else.

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          • 1 vote
          Reply#13 - Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:56 AM EDT
          {"commentId":2477981,"authorDomain":"DrKnow"}

          The most the Masons can do is kick them out. The process would be costly and fraught with legal problems, since, as we have seen, a large part of them are Lawyers and Judges that would easily obstruct a private inquiry.

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          #13.1 - Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:09 AM EDT
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          {"commentId":2521072,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

          byandby43 and Dr Know,
          Thank you for your comments.
          As I wrote above, I am waiting to hear from the public relations firm who is supposed to provide comments and/or reaction from the Grand Lodge of New York.
          Until that time, I won't be able to report what the Masons are doing to those who pleaded guilty to these felonies.
          Thanks again,
          Sandy

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          Reply#14 - Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:29 PM EDT
          {"commentId":2551051,"authorDomain":"katmanwon"}

          The story is but the tip of the iceberg. In the defacto STATE OF TEXAS, a DEPT. or AGENCY of the defacto UNITED STATES, many of the courthouses feature Masonic Cornerstones. Also many of the alleged judges are Masons. When unlawfully manstealed, falsely imprisoned, suffering Misprison of Felony, for a crime I could NOT do I discovered the warden of JAMES BRADSHAW STATE PRISON (a 1800 bed CCA facility) was a Mason. The for profit American judicial system is in shambles & it behooves ALl of US to return to a de jure government & the Common Law, ASAP. It is a fact that 1 in 3 black men are or have been incarcerated, while 1 in 100 of the general propulation are or have been behind bars. One of the favorite schemes is trick the American People into believing that we drive a motor vehicle, which is absurd, as each has the right to travel freely without government interferences which predates the U.S.A. (Magna Carter)

          I DO NOT DRIVE, I steer the "steering wheel" as I travel in a "private vehicle" powered by an "internal combustion engine" because the mfg. placed the engine in the engine compartment. This scheme has been employed by a tyrannical de facto government to subdue the population, contrary to the intent & rule of law.

          For more info type into any search engine "Right to Travel." By the way, Speeding Tickets are totally bogus - & a majority pay due ot their ignorance of the law. Study the law, read the code & empower yourself.

          It is all there, just do your due diligence & you will find the truth, which will set you free.

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          Reply#15 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:10 AM EDT
          {"commentId":4134727,"authorDomain":"it4me"}

          I'm Edward Savitzky, and I am no Grand Secretary. This article needs to be corrected:

          Gilbert Savitzky is the Grand Secretary, not Edward!

          {"commentId":4134727,"threadId":"331954","contentId":"1748405","authorDomain":"it4me"}
            Reply#16 - Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:31 AM EST
            {"commentId":5027197,"authorDomain":"SandyFrost"}

            Thank you.

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